Steven Holloway

Yeah, it's crazy.

And a little bit of friendly competition between you and I in terms of trying to pick some of the games and some of the winners as well, right?

What an awesome full circle moment as well, right?

Because we started as a football show.

I mean, if you're new to Between Two Bears, you probably don't realize that the first 20 to 30 episodes were mostly kind of local football stories brought to life.

So to be able to look back and lean back on that kind of cutting your teeth

to then bring this idea to life is cool.

And we're really lucky.

We've got connections and relationships in with the coaching staff, some of the players as well.

I mean, sitting down with Darren Baisley at the All White Squad announcement, it felt like three mates talking about how he selected the team and what he's looking forward to versus a really meaty, in-depth interview.

It was a different spin and a different dynamic on it, but I think it's going to come up really nicely.

Yeah.

I mean, even when you talk to Darren afterwards about it, you realise we're going to be in camp with you.

He's like, oh, really?

Are you?

I mean, I kind of heard about it, but you actually are coming?

Yeah, coming down the tracks quite fast.

Yeah, I mean, the All Whites have got two games before the World Cup starts, one against Haiti and one against England.

So, yeah, we're kind of previewing, reviewing and getting excited to go.

Yeah, yeah.