Steven Holloway

Well, he talked about riding the wave and knowing the right time to jump off the wave.

Are you getting off?

Well, I don't know.

You could have warned us this is a whole different show now.

Well, because I don't know whether that wave breaks.

or whether it just kind of goes into a different wave.

Like, yeah, I'm not sure.

I don't think I answered your question.

And in a way, the World Cup project's a really cool one because it's a feel-good one because, as Stephen said, that's where we started.

So the opportunity to have used this profile and the brand that we have built to then go and do something which we really enjoy and brings us joy, and hopefully that comes through in the final product back home as well, that it's like,

Well, that's just two fans that are at a World Cup that are reporting back on their experiences, which hopefully other people can do.

And it's a test case to see what we can do in other areas.

Like energised.

It's a new thing for us to do.

You're right.

It's a new challenge.

It's a new skill set.

It's something that we haven't done before.

Similar to what we have been doing.

But yeah, we can't just do the same thing that we do here when we go over there.