Steven Pinker

No, I'm just.

Don't make fun of us.

No, no, no.

You are some weird politics yourself.

By the way, highly qualified candidate who was not able to continue his candidacy because he was like, and then we're going to go to New Hampshire, and then we're going to go to Vermont, and then we're going to go to...

And he did that, and everybody was like, oh, dude, you can't be president, not acting like that.

And then years later, we're just like, you know, you can grab him by the whatever.

You can just grab him any way you want.

And they sometimes let you do it because you're famous.

And we're like, yeah, that's the guy.

That's the guy right there.

We gotta let that guy.

All right, moving on.

The Trump phenomenon is interesting because what he did is done repeatedly is that he has floated norms that everyone thought were inviolable.

They were inviolable only because people thought they were inviolable.

Exactly.

And they existed as common expectation, common knowledge,

And as soon as he flouted them and did not pay the price, they no longer existed as norms, which is why they're, I think, being copied by people like Elon Musk, also a troll, a liar, a braggart.

Things that would be unthinkable for a president, for a CEO, as soon as they're thinkable, they're thinkable.

Yeah, so common knowledge always is defined relative to a network of sharing of information.