Steven Pope
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Some might say, well, it might be his fault, or maybe it's my fault.
There's so many variables, but it's good enough, right?
And honestly, when I give him feedback about the sales being down, I tell him just that.
I'm like, no, dude, I want you to grow sales, but I also know what you're doing is good enough.
That doesn't mean you get an A, but you don't get a C either.
And and so I challenge him.
I'm like, dude, go grow my sales.
And here's the things that I tried.
Here's the things that I would do.
And to be honest, he is not trying anything a lot differently than what I was doing.
And that's OK, because I built a pretty solid sales playbook and I just needed somebody to keep running it.
And that was the plan.
I go on a hike with Noah Wickham, Francisco Valdez.
He's my VP of brand management.
Also another long tenured employee at MAG and a key leader on the senior team.
And we go hike in Columbia and we're hiking 50 kilometers.
Day one, it's raining cats and dogs.