Steven Pressfield

They don't want us.

They're happy the way, you know, we like you, Andrew, the way you are.

You know, our son, we know he's working at Stanford.

He's doing his thing.

We don't want to see him.

It may be unconscious.

I'm not knocking your dad.

We don't want to see him suddenly burst out of the cocoon and become a butterfly and wing away from us, you know.

So they like you the way they are, you know, the way you are.

You hit the nail on a lot of heads.

Yeah.

Yeah, I agree with you completely.

I don't think it's ever been harder.

It's like...

I always said that if you want to make a billion dollars, come up with some kind of product that feeds into people's natural resistance, like potato chips or social media or something.

And they did come up with a product, and it's called the internet.

It's called social media.

And you're right.

People make a lot of money off of that.

Because they—and I don't think they're even aware of what they're doing or aware of what they're tapping into, but they're just allowing people—