Steven Rinella

So if Field and Stream had the record, what portion of Field and Stream held freshwater records?

1880 something in new jersey oh so that must have been like field and stream the magazine in the magazine you know if you go into some store and you see like a field and stream canoe yeah you know i mean exactly they just they've sold off over the years all these different rights to the name and so i didn't know if where the fact i didn't know that even had freshwater records yeah so we took it over from field and stream they like handed you the papers they said here

So where do the records live?

I mean, a lot of this stuff probably hasn't been digitized.

You know, I feel like a lot of, a lot of listeners are, are going to be, I don't mean this as a, I don't mean this as an insult to you guys, but a lot of our listeners are going to be more aware of Boone and Crockett.

Sure.

100%.

Than they would be of IGFA.

And I want to ask you a question, but I want to set up kind of like how, why Boone and Crockett exists, right?

So Boone and Crockett began and remains a conservation organization.

As part of their conservation work a long time ago, they wanted to have a way of sort of how do you measure the health of herds?

Right.

How do we know what, what hunters are getting?

What's coming off the land?

What is big?

What is little?

They had an idea and it wasn't entirely wrong that you could tell the health of a population of, of wild animals by whether or not it was producing large specimens, right?

Like all the things need to be happening properly for a, for a, you know, uh, whatever.

for a patch of ground in north carolina to produce seven eight year old big white tails like a lot of good things need to be happening you need to be taking the right steps to do that so they felt and i'm simplifying something but the genesis of the idea was by keeping track of the size of animals coming off the landscape we might be able to gauge the health of the ecosystem

right?