Steven Rinella

He falls into debt.

He falls into drinking.

So at a very young age, Chapman and his half-brother Nathaniel, I think, kind of sensing that things are rough around the house, set out, and they go west.

More and more people are moving onto the East Coast.

It's becoming what would feel like, especially to somebody like Chapman, who I think had a little bit of itchy feet and liked to spend people alone.

Again, remember I said I love juxtaposition.

Itchy feet.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He was a wanderer.

He was a rambler.

But you know how I like juxtaposition?

Yeah.

Like, again, he liked to be alone, but he clearly also enjoyed the company of others.

But I do think he wanted to set out.

And so he set off.

We don't know much about him and how he gets to Western Pennsylvania, but he and his half-brother get to Western Pennsylvania.

They get over the Alleghenies, get to Western Pennsylvania where Broken Straw Creek is.

meets the Allegheny around the area of what is now Warren, Pennsylvania.

There's a story, again, alleged.

But that's a bloody ground at that time, right?