Steven Rinella

It's just like it's a 10-year cycle, where in some Western states, the majority of the land is owned by the federal government.

Some people look at that, and they're like, what an enormous gift.

that half of the state or more than half of the state, whatever, is open to any American who wants to go out on that land to ride ATVs in certain areas, ride bikes, camp with their kids, hunt, fish, live an outdoor lifestyle.

You don't need to have money to own your own ranch.

It's just there, right?

It's there for us.

And not only that, it's not developed and it's not industrialized.

It's literally, it's money in the bank,

And it's habitat in the bank, right?

It's just there.

It's an American treasure.

Other people look at it, and they look at it, and they see a huge loss in revenue because you're not able to industrialize or develop that landscape.

So someone, you're a political figure in a state.

What you want to do is you want to generate economic activity.

And then you see that there's these landscapes that aren't

easily used.

Now, to be fair, on these federally managed public lands, U.S.

Forest Service land, Bureau of Land Management land, they do mine it.

They do do alternative energy on it.

They do oil extraction on it.