Steven Rinella

Yeah.

I've learned a lot of it's not a lot of stuff you pick up.

It's not like you're learning tricks that you're going to integrate into your own program, but you're learning.

It's more like building a database of information or an understanding rather than picking up some little thing.

Though I have gone and seen people solve problems

seeing how um indigenous hunter-gatherers or hunter-gatherers like see them find like solve a problem that i have recognized in our own world interesting um we used to for a short period of time i would sell snap and turtle meat

And in Michigan, and we would always get snap and turtles, you know, and, and I remember my dad would, how I was taught to do it and how I would do it later when I sold a little bit of snap and turtle meat is like, you cut snap turtles head off.

And then,

they have such like an ancient nervous system you know that they'll for hours i mean for hours like if you cut a turtle's head off and he's going to retract into his shell and for hours you know the expression like chicken with a head cut off right like i'm always trying to explain that to my kids he's like he's he's dead he don't know it but for hours a turtle is tensed up

No kidding.

Oh, yeah.

So, like, I remember my old man, he'd, like, cut his head off and go hang it by the tail, and then you'd pull, and eventually it would go limp.

And down in South America, I saw these guys, they got this big, they had set a net, and they got this big giant river turtle in it.

And they...

They whittled a big, long stick.

Have you ever heard of the fish processing technique called Ikejime?

No.

So you'll catch a fish and brain it, and then they cut it by its tail and crack its tail.

So you get an entry point into its spinal column, and they'll run a wire into it to just deaden the nervous system.

Well, these guys cut this big, long skewer.