Steven Rinella

She'd be the one that would take the encyclopedia out and be like, hey, he was actually a real guy.

His name was John Chapman.

He was born right down the road in Lemonster, Massachusetts.

Maybe not the tin pot hat.

Definitely not the getting to California.

But he was a proselytizer.

He was a wanderer.

He planted...

orchards he did not throw seeds willy-nilly he actually was pretty committed to an almost haphazard style of land speculation and so my mom kind of taught me all about that but it wasn't until later in my life when walking came into into my life again in a really big way the same way my father loved walking um and and faith came back in my into my life the same way my mom

has always been interested in prayer.

I was, I was approaching 40 and I was realizing these things were returning into my life after a lifetime of kind of trying to be different than my parents.

I all of a sudden realized I was coming to their traditions again.

And that's when I started thinking about who's one of the walkers in history that I would love to explore.

And that's, like I said, I was like to my wife, I said, Johnny Appleseed, she said, not a real guy.

And I said, no, you,

Well, actually, I got to push up my little nerd glasses and go, well, actually, and that's how this book was born.

Yeah.

Walt Whitman would describe it as tart enough to make a Blue Jay scream.

Mmm.

Spitters.