Steven Rinella

with my brother, Danny, who lives up in Alaska, to go call a moose, you know, which is a total mind fuck.

Man.

It's a slow game.

It's a slow game.

Like, a moose might take days to come to a call.

Like, he hears it.

Oh, shit.

Oh, yeah, and he might be like, yeah, eventually.

I'll eventually get over there.

Right on, man.

Yeah, it's kind of funny, you know, you see them, and they're, like, aware of you, but the time for them is different.

You know, elk, he just comes ripping in.

but moose is like, yeah, I'll get over there in three days.

I think that, yeah, there's a handful of things, but it's not anybody, but I think that a lot of the commentary around, um,

A lot of the commentary around relationships with predators isn't accurate.

And I think that people are what our ask needs to be on in the West on wolves and grizzlies.

Well, not just that and not this West upper Midwest, what the aspect needs to be on wolves and grizzlies is it needs to be that like, they're going to be on the landscape, the ask the days of the, of it being that they're going to be gone.

that's not going to happen.

The ask needs to be that they be managed as game animals.

Gotcha.