Steven Setu

I don't think there's any podcast that's bigger than your name right now.

You've got Duncan Garner.

He's amazing.

But I feel like Duncan Garner doesn't have the pull that you have.

I feel like you've got a stronger pull.

Proving the haters wrong and proving myself right.

That gets to me.

I think that's always been the masculine imperative.

Well, I always say this.

I say, from the dawn of human time, men have always wanted to be proud.

You know peacocking when I'm you know, when they used to take over a tribe They'll take one of the feathers and put it on the air Because it would show that I'm proud if that's why medals were invented medallions were invented because it's a sense of bragging rights I always say to me never chase happiness chase being proud.

Mm-hmm.

What made you proud today?

Let women and children chase happiness.

You just chase being proud because if you be proud by default, you'll be happy and

So I like winning because that makes me proud.

You know, when people, like I got asked on a podcast the other time, what's your why?

And I said, my why is to prove to myself every single day that I matter.

Prove to myself every single day that I can win.

Because there's a lot of people that don't want me to win, Dom.