Steven Wolt

And you need guys in your life like, okay, Theo, enough with the show.

What's really going on?

Right.

I make, you know, it's so interesting as you're sharing, I'm just thinking about this concept of like,

Like recovery is about this journey towards healthy masculinity.

And when you think about like, like the word masculinity often gets conflated with toxicity today, which I think is kind of unfair.

Masculinity to me is what you just talked about.

honesty, integrity, vulnerability, courage, being a protector, being a provider, being a great friend, showing up for others and living a life that's bigger than just yours.

And so when you think about like this journey of recovery, this journey to becoming a healthy man, what a beautiful journey it is, right?

You think about like, you know, porn abuse teaches us and trains us to objectify and disrespect women, right?

I think healthy masculinity is about humanizing women.

Well, you know, I could tell you from the life I live today, I mean, I don't feel like I'm in a war.

I have a life that's kind of rooted in love.

No, because this stuff is dark, it's heavy, and laughing at each other, I think laughter is so good for the soul, man.

You read the news right now, it's so heavy.

You listen to the news, it's so heavy.

Finding a place to be lighthearted, to have fun, and to laugh is so healing.

Yeah, man.

You know how many guys I struggle with that I talk to and work with that are struggling?

And if I can get them on the phone, I can get them to laugh.