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Steven Zuber

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

Even having reread it just now, I can look.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

I've got the tab open.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

It came out in March, 2015.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

So I read it a hot minute ago and went to refresh my memory.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

So I was just scribbling, I was taking quick notes on what was in there.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

And then I see that he already kind of pulls out because the subtitle is Contra Alexander Wales about Harry Potter and methods of rationality.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

And so I was like, well, I got to read the source material, which he also links to in the first paragraph that he's, that he's arguing against, but he pulls out all the relevant quotes.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

And so I think that my, that's why I stopped taking notes.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

I was like, oh, okay.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

It actually just talking about different things.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

Although I do have some notes in here that I'll hit, but no, we can, as far as do we need to go over the Alexander one?

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

Not really.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

It's linked in here and the parts that are relevant are described in this post and quoted from.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

So, okay.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

Well, there's at least one.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

In Wales's post, he says that the path that a standard story might take to show a character overcoming their flaws is to show them failing because of their flaws.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

In this story, Harry rarely fails.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

His single biggest organic failure was when he lost a battle to Hermione because he didn't think to consult with his soldiers and afterwards showed real growth.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

In my opinion, this is the only real believable moment of character growth for him.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

And my note here was like, oh, no, I disagree with Alexander Wales, whom I love dearly.