Steven

Okay, so I can either go back in the past and try and convince myself that a cup isn't a cup, or I can, in the present moment, create a new pattern, which will mean that in the future, my brain will predict next time it sees a silver cup, it won't just think drink out of it, Steve, it'll think pop some flowers in it.

Okay, so I can either go back in the past and try and convince myself that a cup isn't a cup, or I can, in the present moment, create a new pattern, which will mean that in the future, my brain will predict next time it sees a silver cup, it won't just think drink out of it, Steve, it'll think pop some flowers in it.

So let me give you some specific examples then. So if I'm scared of spiders, how would I go about overcoming that fear of spiders using route number two that you described there?

So let me give you some specific examples then. So if I'm scared of spiders, how would I go about overcoming that fear of spiders using route number two that you described there?

So you need to prove to your brain that those predictions are wrong.

So you need to prove to your brain that those predictions are wrong.

Exposure therapy?

Exposure therapy?

Oh, okay.

Oh, okay.

You're going to be stuck.

You're going to be stuck.

I was thinking earlier on as you were speaking about this sort of social contagion where we can apply meaning to our lives and what happened to us and then consequently make ourselves sad because we see how other people on TikTok or Instagram are feeling. And it made me think that you must think the world is crazy to some degree.

I was thinking earlier on as you were speaking about this sort of social contagion where we can apply meaning to our lives and what happened to us and then consequently make ourselves sad because we see how other people on TikTok or Instagram are feeling. And it made me think that you must think the world is crazy to some degree.

You must see social contagion in the world where suddenly everybody becomes traumatized because trauma has become almost popular to think about what happened to you and create meaning to it and then suffer that meaning. But there's other types of social contagion which are spreading through society. I mean, young people are getting more and more anxious. They're getting more and more depressed.

You must see social contagion in the world where suddenly everybody becomes traumatized because trauma has become almost popular to think about what happened to you and create meaning to it and then suffer that meaning. But there's other types of social contagion which are spreading through society. I mean, young people are getting more and more anxious. They're getting more and more depressed.

We're self-diagnosing ourselves with different illnesses and different things. But now you've explained to me how the brain works. I'm thinking, gosh, as a society, we are bonkers. Well, we're living out lies.

We're self-diagnosing ourselves with different illnesses and different things. But now you've explained to me how the brain works. I'm thinking, gosh, as a society, we are bonkers. Well, we're living out lies.

You pause on the word responsible.

You pause on the word responsible.