Steven

They must really love you. I guess it's for itself.

They must really love you. I guess it's for itself.

What is that range of emotions you feel about them now in the wake of all of this?

What is that range of emotions you feel about them now in the wake of all of this?

Okay.

Okay.

Is there guilt associated with them in particular? No.

Is there guilt associated with them in particular? No.

Because you left prison after, jail after 13-odd years, and you were 43 years old. You left.

Because you left prison after, jail after 13-odd years, and you were 43 years old. You left.

So you stepped out the door at 44 years old, and you went back home. Yes. Right? Yeah. To their house. To their house, yeah.

So you stepped out the door at 44 years old, and you went back home. Yes. Right? Yeah. To their house. To their house, yeah.

Your mum and your dad.

Your mum and your dad.

Did you want to go back to prison? Yes. When you came out?

Did you want to go back to prison? Yes. When you came out?

Because people talk about being institutionalized where prison becomes home and comfort and familiarity.

Because people talk about being institutionalized where prison becomes home and comfort and familiarity.

Was that the case for you? Yes.

Was that the case for you? Yes.