Steven

You're going to use the word luck, right? It sounded like you paused on the word luck, though.

And eventually you get a phone call?

And eventually you get a phone call?

Yes.

Yes.

So I heard you'd said that if you didn't make it on SNL before the age of 25, you were going to... I was going to kill myself.

So I heard you'd said that if you didn't make it on SNL before the age of 25, you were going to... I was going to kill myself.

You wrote what?

You wrote what?

So crazy.

So crazy.

So it wasn't really a threat. So funny. Do you know what's funny? Actually, it's in my book behind there. There's a screenshot of my diary. And in the front page of my diary, it says, before I'm 25. And it has my goal written in the front of my diary. And I've published it in my book, which is on the shelf somewhere.

So it wasn't really a threat. So funny. Do you know what's funny? Actually, it's in my book behind there. There's a screenshot of my diary. And in the front page of my diary, it says, before I'm 25. And it has my goal written in the front of my diary. And I've published it in my book, which is on the shelf somewhere.

Isn't that funny that I had the same thing where I'm like, before I'm 25 years old, I will have to do this.

Isn't that funny that I had the same thing where I'm like, before I'm 25 years old, I will have to do this.

Yeah. And it happened, thankfully.

Yeah. And it happened, thankfully.

I didn't say I was going to kill myself, but...

I didn't say I was going to kill myself, but...

I started my first business at 12 years old and I started more businesses at 14, 15, 16, 17 and 18. And at that time, what I didn't realise is that being a founder with no money meant that I also had to be the marketeer, the sales rep, the finance team, customer service and the recruiter. But if you're starting a business today, thankfully there's a tool that wears all of those hats for you.