Steven

It's the anti-climax. No. Because if you aim at that one goal and put it on a pedestal for that long in your life. No, it paid off.

It's the anti-climax. No. Because if you aim at that one goal and put it on a pedestal for that long in your life. No, it paid off.

Overcoming that.

Overcoming that.

As someone that's always trying to please, is that the antithesis of pleasing for one's brain who is orientated towards making people happy? It's the worst.

As someone that's always trying to please, is that the antithesis of pleasing for one's brain who is orientated towards making people happy? It's the worst.

I mean, like, what's the alternative? The alternative is you quit, you change.

I mean, like, what's the alternative? The alternative is you quit, you change.

It's like, that's who I am. How did you cope with that stardom, being thrust into public spotlight? You're getting feedback from everywhere. You're getting the good, the bad, the ugly. You're someone that wants to please. Did you seek any professional help? Did you get any support?

It's like, that's who I am. How did you cope with that stardom, being thrust into public spotlight? You're getting feedback from everywhere. You're getting the good, the bad, the ugly. You're someone that wants to please. Did you seek any professional help? Did you get any support?

How was that? I was looking before you arrived at all the people you've interviewed going back more than a decade, and it's just everybody. It's like Floyd Mayweather to, you insert the name of the person who's at the top of an industry. You've sat with them. They've been on your show. I was thinking like, how has that altered your perception of not just what fame is, but like what life is about?

How was that? I was looking before you arrived at all the people you've interviewed going back more than a decade, and it's just everybody. It's like Floyd Mayweather to, you insert the name of the person who's at the top of an industry. You've sat with them. They've been on your show. I was thinking like, how has that altered your perception of not just what fame is, but like what life is about?

Because you've met the best of the best, the top of the top, the richest of the rich, the most famous of the famous, right?

Because you've met the best of the best, the top of the top, the richest of the rich, the most famous of the famous, right?

You must have something that you have learned about what it is that makes someone feel comfortable.

You must have something that you have learned about what it is that makes someone feel comfortable.

Okay.

Okay.

How do you stop it from getting old? And I say this because I am obviously I've been doing this podcast now really for about four years. That's really I consider the starting point when we started on YouTube. And I wonder what I've got to do to make sure that I never get bored of doing this.

How do you stop it from getting old? And I say this because I am obviously I've been doing this podcast now really for about four years. That's really I consider the starting point when we started on YouTube. And I wonder what I've got to do to make sure that I never get bored of doing this.