Steven

And it reminds me of Tali Sherratt, who's a neuroscientist that was on my podcast, who...

told me they did studies where they put two people in these like brain scanners and they got them to agree and agree and agree and scan their brains and when they agreed their brains were illuminated then in the next round they got them to disagree at a certain moment and when they disagreed with each other in these brain scanners their brains basically shut down because they've gone into shut down it's almost like you could when i say shut down it's like the lights went out

told me they did studies where they put two people in these like brain scanners and they got them to agree and agree and agree and scan their brains and when they agreed their brains were illuminated then in the next round they got them to disagree at a certain moment and when they disagreed with each other in these brain scanners their brains basically shut down because they've gone into shut down it's almost like you could when i say shut down it's like the lights went out

And so she taught me this law that I wrote about, which is called never disagree. When you say that, people go, never disagree. Doesn't make sense. Doesn't make sense. That's what yes and is so good for.

And so she taught me this law that I wrote about, which is called never disagree. When you say that, people go, never disagree. Doesn't make sense. Doesn't make sense. That's what yes and is so good for.

The other thing that people struggle with a lot, and we talked about it a tiny little bit earlier on, is starting conversations and small talk. It's difficult. I think it's becoming increasingly more difficult as we become more sort of digitalized in our lives.

The other thing that people struggle with a lot, and we talked about it a tiny little bit earlier on, is starting conversations and small talk. It's difficult. I think it's becoming increasingly more difficult as we become more sort of digitalized in our lives.

This sounds like a crazy fucking thing to say on a podcast in 2025. How do we start a conversation with another human being? I've got a favorite.

This sounds like a crazy fucking thing to say on a podcast in 2025. How do we start a conversation with another human being? I've got a favorite.

Gosh, that's crazy. I've got to beat alpacas now. Don't beat alpacas. Whatever you like. I've got a dog called Pablo.

Gosh, that's crazy. I've got to beat alpacas now. Don't beat alpacas. Whatever you like. I've got a dog called Pablo.

Hi. I'm really enjoying this conversation and I'm learning a lot, which is amazing. Lo, I haven't been working out in the gym as much as I want and I'm concerned that my balance is off because I'm recording a lot and things are out of whack and I'm trying to work in the evenings and that's a struggle trying to squeeze my relationships in there as well. Random interesting thing.

Hi. I'm really enjoying this conversation and I'm learning a lot, which is amazing. Lo, I haven't been working out in the gym as much as I want and I'm concerned that my balance is off because I'm recording a lot and things are out of whack and I'm trying to work in the evenings and that's a struggle trying to squeeze my relationships in there as well. Random interesting thing.

I'm training for a marathon that I haven't signed up to yet.

I'm training for a marathon that I haven't signed up to yet.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

But what if I'm in an elevator or I'm in a social setting, I'm at a networking event?