Steven

Is there like a certain age where those experiences, you know, if you experience a certain level of trauma at a certain age, it's harder to recover from that and you're more likely to be addicted?

My friend that I was referencing is Liam Payne, who's from One Direction, the boy band who passed away. And he was on my podcast a few years before he passed away. And on the show, he said that much of what made his early life so difficult as a teenager was he was obviously thrust onto this big show.

My friend that I was referencing is Liam Payne, who's from One Direction, the boy band who passed away. And he was on my podcast a few years before he passed away. And on the show, he said that much of what made his early life so difficult as a teenager was he was obviously thrust onto this big show.

And then the way it worked was, you know, you've got all this public spotlight and then they'd like put him up on a stage and he'd be in front of 100,000 people in Dubai.

And then the way it worked was, you know, you've got all this public spotlight and then they'd like put him up on a stage and he'd be in front of 100,000 people in Dubai.

And then they, after that experience, he was then like driven back to a hotel room and like locked in a hotel room because obviously you can't go out because you're that famous that if you walk out on the street, crowds are going to emerge. So he was then locked in that hotel room. And on the show, he said, I was locked in there with the minibar. which is full of alcohol.

And then they, after that experience, he was then like driven back to a hotel room and like locked in a hotel room because obviously you can't go out because you're that famous that if you walk out on the street, crowds are going to emerge. So he was then locked in that hotel room. And on the show, he said, I was locked in there with the minibar. which is full of alcohol.

So I would drink and that cycle would repeat itself. And it'd be like stage, you know, car, hotel, locked, drink, stage, car, and that cycle repeat itself. So when you were talking about isolation and loneliness as well, I never really considered the fact that connection and social relationships could play a role in help in creating an addiction in someone, but it tracks.

So I would drink and that cycle would repeat itself. And it'd be like stage, you know, car, hotel, locked, drink, stage, car, and that cycle repeat itself. So when you were talking about isolation and loneliness as well, I never really considered the fact that connection and social relationships could play a role in help in creating an addiction in someone, but it tracks.

You're clearly extremely smart. And when I meet people like you, I always think to myself, you could have committed your life to anything. You could have worked in pretty much any field and you would have been a success because you have what it takes to be successful. So why do you care so much about this?

You're clearly extremely smart. And when I meet people like you, I always think to myself, you could have committed your life to anything. You could have worked in pretty much any field and you would have been a success because you have what it takes to be successful. So why do you care so much about this?

An immediate family member?

An immediate family member?

And what age were you when you lost that person?

And what age were you when you lost that person?

From addiction?

From addiction?

When you're dealing with a family member or someone close to you that has an addiction... so many people listening will be able to relate to that feeling. Can you describe what they feel in, I guess, an attempt to make them feel seen?

When you're dealing with a family member or someone close to you that has an addiction... so many people listening will be able to relate to that feeling. Can you describe what they feel in, I guess, an attempt to make them feel seen?

Because sometimes, especially in hindsight, if you end up losing that person, you can be filled with lots of feelings of guilt or misunderstanding, and especially thinking about how society's moved on. So how do you put into words how it feels to be a family member with someone dealing with addiction?