Steven

Potentially real masculinity is having the strength of your own convictions and being able to ignore social pressure to conform. You talked about wokeness in the left and how they messed it up. I consider myself to be, I'd say apolitical, but it's more... It sounds like a strange thing to say. I can just see the merits in things on both sides. So I really struggle to identify with a side.

I think, okay, that's good for the economy. That's good for different social classes and stuff. And so I also just have, I think, a very strong negative reaction to the binary choice that you're kind of forced to make. Yeah, right. I agree. So I've always kind of stayed out of it in that regard. That's good. But in terms of this wokeness and the... the way that the left have screwed it up.

I think, okay, that's good for the economy. That's good for different social classes and stuff. And so I also just have, I think, a very strong negative reaction to the binary choice that you're kind of forced to make. Yeah, right. I agree. So I've always kind of stayed out of it in that regard. That's good. But in terms of this wokeness and the... the way that the left have screwed it up.

What have they got wrong? Well, um... And what's Trump got right, I guess?

What have they got wrong? Well, um... And what's Trump got right, I guess?

But isn't this one of the laws of human nature, fitting into our tribes? Because I think being in the sort of political middle or wherever I am, you get attacked from both sides. Because sometimes you'll have a conversation with this person and they'll say, oh my God, you're right wing. Then we'll have a conversation with this person. Then they'll say, oh my God, you're a left wing.

But isn't this one of the laws of human nature, fitting into our tribes? Because I think being in the sort of political middle or wherever I am, you get attacked from both sides. Because sometimes you'll have a conversation with this person and they'll say, oh my God, you're right wing. Then we'll have a conversation with this person. Then they'll say, oh my God, you're a left wing.

And so you just, you never fit. Actually, my instinct is tempted. My instinct, my sort of like my primitive instinct is like, just fucking pick a side, Steve. And then at least you'll have a bunch of people to protect you. You talk about that as well, how having a group of people around you and not being in isolation offers protection. So it's tempting sometimes.

And so you just, you never fit. Actually, my instinct is tempted. My instinct, my sort of like my primitive instinct is like, just fucking pick a side, Steve. And then at least you'll have a bunch of people to protect you. You talk about that as well, how having a group of people around you and not being in isolation offers protection. So it's tempting sometimes.

Do you think we're in a similar time now where we're getting caught up in mania?

Do you think we're in a similar time now where we're getting caught up in mania?

You said that Trump is deploying the laws of power. What laws of power has Trump successfully deployed?

You said that Trump is deploying the laws of power. What laws of power has Trump successfully deployed?

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Or find the link in the description below. One of the things I was thinking about over the Christmas period was identity and the pitfalls of having an identity in life. And it reminds me of Law 48 in the 48 Laws of Power, which is to assume formlessness. What do you think of the subject of identity?