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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

Oh, yeah, I knew him.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

Things go wrong and we leap to blame. And once we leap to blame, we often leap to revenge. Yeah. We want to take revenge. We want to right the wrong that's happened to us. We want to correct the injustice. And you talk about this as part of human nature, but also give us some advice. I think it was in the Law of Power book about, I think it was Law 36.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

Things go wrong and we leap to blame. And once we leap to blame, we often leap to revenge. Yeah. We want to take revenge. We want to right the wrong that's happened to us. We want to correct the injustice. And you talk about this as part of human nature, but also give us some advice. I think it was in the Law of Power book about, I think it was Law 36.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

When we feel like we've been wronged, Robert, when we feel like there's been an injustice... What is the best course of action? It depends on the wrong and in the injustice. So let me give you an example. Someone at work said, I heard they said something to my boss and it's cost me my promotion and they're talking about me behind my back and it's annoying me.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

When we feel like we've been wronged, Robert, when we feel like there's been an injustice... What is the best course of action? It depends on the wrong and in the injustice. So let me give you an example. Someone at work said, I heard they said something to my boss and it's cost me my promotion and they're talking about me behind my back and it's annoying me.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

Because these types of people, they prey on those who seem weakest, right? Predators love prey.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

Because these types of people, they prey on those who seem weakest, right? Predators love prey.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

When we zoom out on what's going on in the world, a lot has changed. A lot has changed. One of the things that's changed is our society, as I think I've heard you say, is less united by some of these great myths of religion. And I've heard you talk about democracy and all these kinds of things.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

When we zoom out on what's going on in the world, a lot has changed. A lot has changed. One of the things that's changed is our society, as I think I've heard you say, is less united by some of these great myths of religion. And I've heard you talk about democracy and all these kinds of things.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

And as a result, people no longer believe in the same ideas because every form of authority is now under question. And you're someone who studies history. You're someone that understands the cycles of history. What cycle of history are we in at this moment in time? And how does one navigate it?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

And as a result, people no longer believe in the same ideas because every form of authority is now under question. And you're someone who studies history. You're someone that understands the cycles of history. What cycle of history are we in at this moment in time? And how does one navigate it?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

Can I ask you a question about this book, which is kind of linked to what you're saying now, The 48 Laws of Power? What demographic emails you the most about the book?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

Can I ask you a question about this book, which is kind of linked to what you're saying now, The 48 Laws of Power? What demographic emails you the most about the book?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

Young men voted for Trump. I know. You're someone that I sense, and from what I've understood from my research, isn't a big fan of Trump. And so what do you say to those people about why you have that position and what they're misunderstanding potentially?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

Young men voted for Trump. I know. You're someone that I sense, and from what I've understood from my research, isn't a big fan of Trump. And so what do you say to those people about why you have that position and what they're misunderstanding potentially?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

You made me reflect on something I read the other day. I think it was on X. And it was a study that shows that when the more testosterone you have, again, which we can use as like a proxy for masculinity, in studies, you're more likely to think for yourself. So they had two groups of people. Whoa. And they gave one group of people testosterone. I think it was a group of men testosterone.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

You made me reflect on something I read the other day. I think it was on X. And it was a study that shows that when the more testosterone you have, again, which we can use as like a proxy for masculinity, in studies, you're more likely to think for yourself. So they had two groups of people. Whoa. And they gave one group of people testosterone. I think it was a group of men testosterone.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

They both had to do this test. And the ones who had the higher testosterone levels had been given the artificial testosterone. They were less likely to cave in to external social expectations. Wow. Which I thought was a proxy for what you're saying, which is... Right on, man.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

They both had to do this test. And the ones who had the higher testosterone levels had been given the artificial testosterone. They were less likely to cave in to external social expectations. Wow. Which I thought was a proxy for what you're saying, which is... Right on, man.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The Manipulation Expert: Most People Don't Realise They're Narcissists! You're Setting Your Child Up For Misery!

Potentially real masculinity is having the strength of your own convictions and being able to ignore social pressure to conform. You talked about wokeness in the left and how they messed it up. I consider myself to be, I'd say apolitical, but it's more... It sounds like a strange thing to say. I can just see the merits in things on both sides. So I really struggle to identify with a side.