Steven

There'll be people listening to this now. I doubt they would have got this far. Because if they did, they probably wouldn't think this. But there'll be some people who would have gotten this far in the conversation and be thinking, yes, but.

There'll be people listening to this now. I doubt they would have got this far. Because if they did, they probably wouldn't think this. But there'll be some people who would have gotten this far in the conversation and be thinking, yes, but.

alcohol helps me socialize and socializing is really important and i can't socialize very easily because the design of the modern world without having a drink or i have great times when i drink so i don't want to quit my alcohol use and you know in some cases that they will be high and medium consumption alcohol drinkers what do you say to those people

alcohol helps me socialize and socializing is really important and i can't socialize very easily because the design of the modern world without having a drink or i have great times when i drink so i don't want to quit my alcohol use and you know in some cases that they will be high and medium consumption alcohol drinkers what do you say to those people

In terms of treating someone with alcohol abuse disorder, rehab is often the most widely known form of treatment. One of my friends who struggled with addiction really, really badly with alcohol addiction, but also drug addiction, said to me multiple times, he said, I've been to rehab three or four times now and it's just not working.

In terms of treating someone with alcohol abuse disorder, rehab is often the most widely known form of treatment. One of my friends who struggled with addiction really, really badly with alcohol addiction, but also drug addiction, said to me multiple times, he said, I've been to rehab three or four times now and it's just not working.

And I think when the most popular or the most well-known treatment doesn't work for you, you kind of develop an even greater sense of hopelessness. Are you a fan of rehab?

And I think when the most popular or the most well-known treatment doesn't work for you, you kind of develop an even greater sense of hopelessness. Are you a fan of rehab?

What do you think about psychedelics as a way to counteract addictive behaviors like the ones we've described earlier?

What do you think about psychedelics as a way to counteract addictive behaviors like the ones we've described earlier?

Psilocybin is the active compound in magic mushrooms.

Psilocybin is the active compound in magic mushrooms.

Have you heard of ibogaine?

Have you heard of ibogaine?

Which is often associated, which is another psychedelic often associated with addiction.

Which is often associated, which is another psychedelic often associated with addiction.

Really?

Really?

Have they studied that?

Have they studied that?