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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Oh, yeah.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

So what is your diet of preference then? There's so many different diets that we've... people speak about when they talk about cancer and other chronic diseases. As I think I said to you beforehand, I'm on an extremely low carb diet, which is like verges on keto, but I kind of bounce in and out of ketosis. What do you think of, let's start with the ketogenic diet.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

So what is your diet of preference then? There's so many different diets that we've... people speak about when they talk about cancer and other chronic diseases. As I think I said to you beforehand, I'm on an extremely low carb diet, which is like verges on keto, but I kind of bounce in and out of ketosis. What do you think of, let's start with the ketogenic diet.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Do you have a view on that kind of diet?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Do you have a view on that kind of diet?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Why do the Japanese seem to do so well when we think about the world's healthiest countries. Looking at some data here, a variety of different graphs that I have in front of me, and Japan continually seems to come out on top as it relates to health span.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Why do the Japanese seem to do so well when we think about the world's healthiest countries. Looking at some data here, a variety of different graphs that I have in front of me, and Japan continually seems to come out on top as it relates to health span.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

I asked this question because I have a friend who was, I think it was on this podcast, so I don't think I'm revealing anything. He actually sat next to me when Peter Atiyah was talking to him. He's Jack who runs production for us. He had his DEXA scan done, which looks at your visceral fat, subcutaneous fat, muscle mass, bone density, those kinds of things. And he's a slim guy.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

I asked this question because I have a friend who was, I think it was on this podcast, so I don't think I'm revealing anything. He actually sat next to me when Peter Atiyah was talking to him. He's Jack who runs production for us. He had his DEXA scan done, which looks at your visceral fat, subcutaneous fat, muscle mass, bone density, those kinds of things. And he's a slim guy.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

He's much slimmer than I am. And... The diagnosis that came back from the doctor basically said, you're overnourished. And when I look at him, he doesn't look like someone that's overnourished. And the doctor essentially said to him that you need to reduce your calories. Now I'm looking at this guy thinking this is a slim guy. This guy's like much, much slimmer than I am.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

He's much slimmer than I am. And... The diagnosis that came back from the doctor basically said, you're overnourished. And when I look at him, he doesn't look like someone that's overnourished. And the doctor essentially said to him that you need to reduce your calories. Now I'm looking at this guy thinking this is a slim guy. This guy's like much, much slimmer than I am.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Yet the doctor's telling him that he's overeating.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Yet the doctor's telling him that he's overeating.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Yeah. And that's what we call skinny fat. I am still mildly in shock about it because... Because I saw his results, I panicked. So the next day, I also went to the same clinic as him. I had my DEXA scan done, and it came back and said that I had, quote, zero visceral fat. So my results from Dr. Peter Atiyah said I had zero visceral fat, which he said was rare.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Yeah. And that's what we call skinny fat. I am still mildly in shock about it because... Because I saw his results, I panicked. So the next day, I also went to the same clinic as him. I had my DEXA scan done, and it came back and said that I had, quote, zero visceral fat. So my results from Dr. Peter Atiyah said I had zero visceral fat, which he said was rare.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

But I had subcutaneous fat, which is the fat on the outside, more than Jack did. So Jack had visceral fat, which is the fat inside us, and he has almost no subcutaneous fat, and I'm kind of the inverse of that. And I don't understand.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

But I had subcutaneous fat, which is the fat on the outside, more than Jack did. So Jack had visceral fat, which is the fat inside us, and he has almost no subcutaneous fat, and I'm kind of the inverse of that. And I don't understand.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

I was trying to figure out, why is my body, when I eat something, putting the fat subcutaneously on the outside, whereas Jack's body is putting the fat on the inside, which is the dangerous fat?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

I was trying to figure out, why is my body, when I eat something, putting the fat subcutaneously on the outside, whereas Jack's body is putting the fat on the inside, which is the dangerous fat?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

And then the last thing is cortisol. Yeah. The job that we have, I know that it doesn't sound like a hard job to be a podcaster, but in Jack's role, he's basically working seven days a week sometimes. You know, he's working early hours of the morning. He's traveling around the world with me to come to these studios. It is, I observe it, it's a stressful job.