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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

And then the last thing is cortisol. Yeah. The job that we have, I know that it doesn't sound like a hard job to be a podcaster, but in Jack's role, he's basically working seven days a week sometimes. You know, he's working early hours of the morning. He's traveling around the world with me to come to these studios. It is, I observe it, it's a stressful job.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

So I was wondering if all of these factors play a role in how our body chooses where to store things. And really like the role of cortisol in determining fat storage is so interesting to me. Like the role of stress in determining where our fat is stored

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

So I was wondering if all of these factors play a role in how our body chooses where to store things. And really like the role of cortisol in determining fat storage is so interesting to me. Like the role of stress in determining where our fat is stored

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Why is visceral fat dangerous? Because people refer to it as being linked with a lot of chronic disease and cancers and stuff like that. But what evidence do we have that it's dangerous? And why is it dangerous? Yeah.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Why is visceral fat dangerous? Because people refer to it as being linked with a lot of chronic disease and cancers and stuff like that. But what evidence do we have that it's dangerous? And why is it dangerous? Yeah.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Oh, gosh. And there's a link there to cancer.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Oh, gosh. And there's a link there to cancer.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Don't you hate it when you have a good idea and then you forget? For the last two years, I've been writing my brand new book. And my book writing process is a little bit atypical in the sense that I have all of these great conversations on the Diary of a CEO. And I might stumble across a great idea while my guest is speaking to me in the middle of a conversation. Or I could be walking the dog.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Don't you hate it when you have a good idea and then you forget? For the last two years, I've been writing my brand new book. And my book writing process is a little bit atypical in the sense that I have all of these great conversations on the Diary of a CEO. And I might stumble across a great idea while my guest is speaking to me in the middle of a conversation. Or I could be walking the dog.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

I could be out and about with my friends. I could be anywhere when I have an idea for my upcoming book. This is why Notion, who are a show sponsor of mine now, has been an incredible platform for me. I've designed my Notion so that I can pull out my phone super quickly and store the idea in the section about my new book.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

I could be out and about with my friends. I could be anywhere when I have an idea for my upcoming book. This is why Notion, who are a show sponsor of mine now, has been an incredible platform for me. I've designed my Notion so that I can pull out my phone super quickly and store the idea in the section about my new book.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

And I can collate pictures, images, voice notes, any type of media on the go, which means I'm able to capture that point of inspiration in a flexible way, and I'm no longer losing good ideas. I imagine many of the creatives and entrepreneurs listening to my podcast already use Notion. But if you want to try out Notion and you've never used it yourself, head over to notion.com slash DOAC.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

And I can collate pictures, images, voice notes, any type of media on the go, which means I'm able to capture that point of inspiration in a flexible way, and I'm no longer losing good ideas. I imagine many of the creatives and entrepreneurs listening to my podcast already use Notion. But if you want to try out Notion and you've never used it yourself, head over to notion.com slash DOAC.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

That's notion.com slash DOAC. There was a shocking study that I read about this a while ago in JAMA, and it examined the impact of illness anxiety disorder, which they call IAD, formerly known as hypochondriitis, and the impact that being avoidant of health and illness has on your mortality rates. And the research analysed data from approximately 45,000 individuals over a 24-year period,

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

That's notion.com slash DOAC. There was a shocking study that I read about this a while ago in JAMA, and it examined the impact of illness anxiety disorder, which they call IAD, formerly known as hypochondriitis, and the impact that being avoidant of health and illness has on your mortality rates. And the research analysed data from approximately 45,000 individuals over a 24-year period,

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

comparing 4,000 patients who had this anxiety around their health and were avoidant. And the findings showed that those with IAD that were anxious about health and getting checkups and those kinds of things had an 84% higher risk of death during the study period, dying on average five years earlier than those without the disorder.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

comparing 4,000 patients who had this anxiety around their health and were avoidant. And the findings showed that those with IAD that were anxious about health and getting checkups and those kinds of things had an 84% higher risk of death during the study period, dying on average five years earlier than those without the disorder.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

And again, causation is hard to establish there because it could mean that being an anxious person means your cortisol is up anyway. Being an anxious person means you make worse dietary choices. But I've always remembered that and thought about how I find it much better, especially as I age and I'm going to be now confronted with more risks, especially things in men like prostate cancer.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

And again, causation is hard to establish there because it could mean that being an anxious person means your cortisol is up anyway. Being an anxious person means you make worse dietary choices. But I've always remembered that and thought about how I find it much better, especially as I age and I'm going to be now confronted with more risks, especially things in men like prostate cancer.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
We Can Now Reverse Stage 4 Cancer & These Foods Are Spreading It! Dr. William Li (Chronic Disease Expert)

Being on the front foot is probably a better approach.