Steven

And if you were to give someone some advice, just jumping ahead and doing some top line stuff, on how to make their drawing come true in their life, as you reflect back on the, like, core components of that manifestation becoming a reality... What are those cool components? Because we've all got a drawing in our head.

When you say drowning out the noise, there's a lot of things I want to go into there, but you talk about drowning out the noise. I'll focus on that because it was the last thing. How do you balance drowning out the noise with another principle that I know is important to you, which is feedback, especially from customers? Because customers will be saying, We hate this. Customers always hate change.

When you say drowning out the noise, there's a lot of things I want to go into there, but you talk about drowning out the noise. I'll focus on that because it was the last thing. How do you balance drowning out the noise with another principle that I know is important to you, which is feedback, especially from customers? Because customers will be saying, We hate this. Customers always hate change.

And they also don't know what they want. So how do you know what to drown out and what to consider to be feedback?

And they also don't know what they want. So how do you know what to drown out and what to consider to be feedback?

You referenced that calling around people that you respect.

You referenced that calling around people that you respect.

I had someone say that, refer to this as your like personal board of directors.

I had someone say that, refer to this as your like personal board of directors.

Which is these like five or seven people that you typically call, maybe it's 10. Who's on your personal board of directors? Like who are these people that are taking these phone calls and why are you calling them? What is it about them that makes them a reliable partner in decisions?

Which is these like five or seven people that you typically call, maybe it's 10. Who's on your personal board of directors? Like who are these people that are taking these phone calls and why are you calling them? What is it about them that makes them a reliable partner in decisions?

So at that early stage in your career, what role are mentors playing? Because we're talking about personal boards of directors here.

So at that early stage in your career, what role are mentors playing? Because we're talking about personal boards of directors here.

These are, in some respects, mentors, right? Do they matter? And I say this, Emma, because I have kids coming up to me all the time saying, Steve, I need a mentor. And they sometimes say, can you be my mentor? And I'm thinking, fucking hell, I've done 17,000 hours of podcasting and you haven't learned a fucking thing.

These are, in some respects, mentors, right? Do they matter? And I say this, Emma, because I have kids coming up to me all the time saying, Steve, I need a mentor. And they sometimes say, can you be my mentor? And I'm thinking, fucking hell, I've done 17,000 hours of podcasting and you haven't learned a fucking thing.

That was the mentorship. What's your take on finding a mentor and how pivotal and important that is to become a successful person?

That was the mentorship. What's your take on finding a mentor and how pivotal and important that is to become a successful person?

And what part of you do you think, if I removed, and this could be a skill or a characteristic... we're definitely assured that you wouldn't be where you are today. Like what is the sacred part of you that is defining? Because people see Emma today and they see these skills and this knowledge and all this stuff and these relationships and these businesses and this success.

And what part of you do you think, if I removed, and this could be a skill or a characteristic... we're definitely assured that you wouldn't be where you are today. Like what is the sacred part of you that is defining? Because people see Emma today and they see these skills and this knowledge and all this stuff and these relationships and these businesses and this success.

But what is the like, because you said I'm dyslexic and I think you left school, you dropped out of school at 15. And then you went to college for a while and you lasted six months there.