Steven

And in the UK, 28% of adults are obese and 36% of them are obese. That's not from your book, but that's from some research we did on the UK numbers as well. Well, you know, the UK is the fat man of Europe. Yes, that's true. Having metabolic syndrome is equal to losing 15 to 20 years of life. That was in your book. That's correct. Which is startling.

And in the UK, 28% of adults are obese and 36% of them are obese. That's not from your book, but that's from some research we did on the UK numbers as well. Well, you know, the UK is the fat man of Europe. Yes, that's true. Having metabolic syndrome is equal to losing 15 to 20 years of life. That was in your book. That's correct. Which is startling.

And worldwide sugar consumption has tripled in just the last 50 years.

And worldwide sugar consumption has tripled in just the last 50 years.

In your book, Fat Chance, on page 120, there was something particularly curious because I think this is a... Yeah, here we go. It says, the bottom line is sugar consumption is a problem. 33% of sugar consumption comes from beverages. Yes. And the biggest abusers are the poor and underserved. Indeed. So let's talk about beverages to start with then. Mm-hmm. Diet beverages, are they fine?

In your book, Fat Chance, on page 120, there was something particularly curious because I think this is a... Yeah, here we go. It says, the bottom line is sugar consumption is a problem. 33% of sugar consumption comes from beverages. Yes. And the biggest abusers are the poor and underserved. Indeed. So let's talk about beverages to start with then. Mm-hmm. Diet beverages, are they fine?

And how bad are the sort of fizzy pop beverages that most of us consume every day?

And how bad are the sort of fizzy pop beverages that most of us consume every day?

Okay.

Okay.

And diabetes is now the main cause of death in 40% of death certificates. Exactly right.

And diabetes is now the main cause of death in 40% of death certificates. Exactly right.

And why does that harm me, having an insulin response?

And why does that harm me, having an insulin response?

Do you drink that stuff? Of course not. Just checking. Is there any other physiological consequences to diet sodas outside of the insulin response?

Do you drink that stuff? Of course not. Just checking. Is there any other physiological consequences to diet sodas outside of the insulin response?

So what advice do we give that is simple and actionable for Jennifer or Judith or Dave who's listening to this now? They are, you know, 40 years old potentially. They have a nine to five job. They're very busy. Maybe they have some kids to feed at the same time. They don't have time to be like, you know, looking at doing a fine...

So what advice do we give that is simple and actionable for Jennifer or Judith or Dave who's listening to this now? They are, you know, 40 years old potentially. They have a nine to five job. They're very busy. Maybe they have some kids to feed at the same time. They don't have time to be like, you know, looking at doing a fine...

Yeah.

Yeah.