Steven

If you could do me a huge favor and hit that subscribe button, I will work tirelessly from now until forever to make the show better and better and better and better. Michelle, Craig. What do I need to know about your earliest context to understand the adults? And I use that word intentionally because I know that's what your parents were intent on raising.

If you could do me a huge favor and hit that subscribe button, I will work tirelessly from now until forever to make the show better and better and better and better. Michelle, Craig. What do I need to know about your earliest context to understand the adults? And I use that word intentionally because I know that's what your parents were intent on raising.

The adults that are in front of me today.

The adults that are in front of me today.

You talked about foundational values. What were those foundational values that you learned in that location? And... How did your parents teach you those foundational values? And I ask that with great curiosity, because as I read through both of your books, There are moments in your career where, as adults in your late 20s, where those values show up so clearly over and over and over again.

You talked about foundational values. What were those foundational values that you learned in that location? And... How did your parents teach you those foundational values? And I ask that with great curiosity, because as I read through both of your books, There are moments in your career where, as adults in your late 20s, where those values show up so clearly over and over and over again.

And as I was reading, I was thinking, gosh, what did their parents do to orientate them in such a clear way? Where at key moments in both of your careers, you make decisions not to get a pay rise or not to go for the thing that is higher status and to do something else, either something that's aligned with your passions and hobbies or something that's in service of others.

And as I was reading, I was thinking, gosh, what did their parents do to orientate them in such a clear way? Where at key moments in both of your careers, you make decisions not to get a pay rise or not to go for the thing that is higher status and to do something else, either something that's aligned with your passions and hobbies or something that's in service of others.

So what were those values and how did your parents instill those in you?

So what were those values and how did your parents instill those in you?

Never took a sick day.

Never took a sick day.

Mm-hmm. It's a tool in the toolbox that you sometimes don't even realize is there if you're privileged enough to. Right. Because it's that tectonic plate that sits underneath you that you never can really see, but gives you a certain sense of, I guess, risk and go get it.

Mm-hmm. It's a tool in the toolbox that you sometimes don't even realize is there if you're privileged enough to. Right. Because it's that tectonic plate that sits underneath you that you never can really see, but gives you a certain sense of, I guess, risk and go get it.

Does that teach you to respond to others who cry for that help?

Does that teach you to respond to others who cry for that help?

Race. One of the startling things with these two photos, mainly because I think it's this way around, but this is, I believe, what, second grade or something? That was first grade. First grade, and then this is seventh or eighth?

Race. One of the startling things with these two photos, mainly because I think it's this way around, but this is, I believe, what, second grade or something? That was first grade. First grade, and then this is seventh or eighth?

There's a lot less white people in the second photo, which means that, which assumes that white people started leaving your school. Oh, absolutely.

There's a lot less white people in the second photo, which means that, which assumes that white people started leaving your school. Oh, absolutely.