Steven

I find it incredibly fascinating that when we look at the back end of Spotify and Apple and our audio channels, the majority of people that watch this podcast haven't yet hit the follow button or the subscribe button, wherever you're listening to this. I would like to make a deal with you.

If you could do me a huge favor and hit that subscribe button, I will work tirelessly from now until forever to make the show better and better and better and better. I can't tell you how much it helps when you hit that subscribe button. The show gets bigger, which means we can expand the production, bring in all the guests you want to see and continue to do in this thing we love.

If you could do me a huge favor and hit that subscribe button, I will work tirelessly from now until forever to make the show better and better and better and better. I can't tell you how much it helps when you hit that subscribe button. The show gets bigger, which means we can expand the production, bring in all the guests you want to see and continue to do in this thing we love.

If you could do me that small favor and hit the follow button, wherever you're listening to this, that would mean the world to me. That is the only favor I will ever ask you. Thank you so much for your time.

If you could do me that small favor and hit the follow button, wherever you're listening to this, that would mean the world to me. That is the only favor I will ever ask you. Thank you so much for your time.

You rejected him at first, right?

You rejected him at first, right?

Did you ask for any promises if he were to win?

Did you ask for any promises if he were to win?

What was the thinking behind that?

What was the thinking behind that?

I find it incredibly fascinating that when we look at the back end of Spotify and Apple and our audio channels, the majority of people that watch this podcast haven't yet hit the follow button or the subscribe button, wherever you're listening to this. I would like to make a deal with you.

I find it incredibly fascinating that when we look at the back end of Spotify and Apple and our audio channels, the majority of people that watch this podcast haven't yet hit the follow button or the subscribe button, wherever you're listening to this. I would like to make a deal with you.

If you could do me a huge favor and hit that subscribe button, I will work tirelessly from now until forever to make the show better and better and better and better. Michelle, Craig. What do I need to know about your earliest context to understand the adults? And I use that word intentionally because I know that's what your parents were intent on raising.

If you could do me a huge favor and hit that subscribe button, I will work tirelessly from now until forever to make the show better and better and better and better. Michelle, Craig. What do I need to know about your earliest context to understand the adults? And I use that word intentionally because I know that's what your parents were intent on raising.

The adults that are in front of me today.

The adults that are in front of me today.

You talked about foundational values. What were those foundational values that you learned in that location? And... How did your parents teach you those foundational values? And I ask that with great curiosity, because as I read through both of your books, There are moments in your career where, as adults in your late 20s, where those values show up so clearly over and over and over again.

You talked about foundational values. What were those foundational values that you learned in that location? And... How did your parents teach you those foundational values? And I ask that with great curiosity, because as I read through both of your books, There are moments in your career where, as adults in your late 20s, where those values show up so clearly over and over and over again.

And as I was reading, I was thinking, gosh, what did their parents do to orientate them in such a clear way? Where at key moments in both of your careers, you make decisions not to get a pay rise or not to go for the thing that is higher status and to do something else, either something that's aligned with your passions and hobbies or something that's in service of others.