Stewart Lee

Hello.

We're also joined by journalist and founder member of The Nerve.

I don't know why I've said it like that, The Nerve.

I like it.

Mysterious...

Crime syndicate.

Carol Cadwallader.

In my dreams.

Yes.

And the phrase that we're going to look at is the technological republic, which is not a phrase that trips off most people's lips.

No, it's a terrible phrase.

up with isn't it and there'd be about 14 of them and they'd have to get the set William Shatner somebody gave me as a gift William Shatner's sci-fi novel Tech War Tech War that's it Tech War and it's hilarious reading it out because every sentence has one phrase too many and

And once you've kind of noted that, it becomes very, very funny.

Yeah, yeah.

So that's how it works then.

So it's kind of like the man wandered into the podcast studio that was sleekly available with its seating in which the area and semicircle of microphones were set up so that he could quickly talk live about his special subject that he'd been thinking about earlier that day.

Yeah.

Anyway, Carol Cadwell is here.

You, of course, have had many a run in and close encounter with people in Silicon Valley.

If I ever get in a sniff of a BBC studio.