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Stuart Miller

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
616 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

Well, the origin story is I worked for Ted Seides, who had learned it from the Yale Investment Office. Their emphasis on it and their professionalism around it was kind of my window into that where it's like, oh, it's not quite true. When I met Ted, I had started a reference-oriented business. business and was pitching him as a client. And then I ended up joining him.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

Well, the origin story is I worked for Ted Seides, who had learned it from the Yale Investment Office. Their emphasis on it and their professionalism around it was kind of my window into that where it's like, oh, it's not quite true. When I met Ted, I had started a reference-oriented business. business and was pitching him as a client. And then I ended up joining him.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

So I was kind of already onto it, but he was so good at it. I felt like I learned a lot from, in effect, the Yale Endowment lineage of references. And they were maniacal about it. Like they tracked down college roommates and that sort of thing.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

So I was kind of already onto it, but he was so good at it. I felt like I learned a lot from, in effect, the Yale Endowment lineage of references. And they were maniacal about it. Like they tracked down college roommates and that sort of thing.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

And then I wrote that piece, What's Going On Here With This Human, partly to put myself, like I reread it before I do references, because it captures a mood. I'm trying to get myself back into the mood when I'm in the zone of holding somebody back.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

And then I wrote that piece, What's Going On Here With This Human, partly to put myself, like I reread it before I do references, because it captures a mood. I'm trying to get myself back into the mood when I'm in the zone of holding somebody back.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

at the humility about how much you can see, how much you know at that moment, and then kind of enjoying the process of figuring them out together with other people. There's also just at this point, the felt experience of finding it so accurate. I can often find in the reference something that is highly relevant to what ends up happening later and how I end up experiencing that person.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

at the humility about how much you can see, how much you know at that moment, and then kind of enjoying the process of figuring them out together with other people. There's also just at this point, the felt experience of finding it so accurate. I can often find in the reference something that is highly relevant to what ends up happening later and how I end up experiencing that person.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

I've just seen the power of it. I do believe that there's signal in there. It's not 100%, but it's like 75%.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

I've just seen the power of it. I do believe that there's signal in there. It's not 100%, but it's like 75%.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

I like Jonathan Haidt's metaphor of the elephant and the rider, which he says he came to in a psychedelic trip. And it resonates because both on references and when you're interviewing a candidate, there's some percentage of the time where you're interviewing the rider and his idea is that they're too separate.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

I like Jonathan Haidt's metaphor of the elephant and the rider, which he says he came to in a psychedelic trip. And it resonates because both on references and when you're interviewing a candidate, there's some percentage of the time where you're interviewing the rider and his idea is that they're too separate.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

I guess it could be just the ego and the unconscious, but it feels like it's more than that. You have to distinguish between what somebody's saying and How self-aware are they? And are they speaking for just the writer or for the writer and the elephant?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

I guess it could be just the ego and the unconscious, but it feels like it's more than that. You have to distinguish between what somebody's saying and How self-aware are they? And are they speaking for just the writer or for the writer and the elephant?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

And an example would be like, everybody knows that you need, quote, should be high conscientious and detail-oriented in most professions on most things. But the reality is some people aren't. And understanding in a reference process like... The implications, where are they on that? And the implications for that given role ends up being super important.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

And an example would be like, everybody knows that you need, quote, should be high conscientious and detail-oriented in most professions on most things. But the reality is some people aren't. And understanding in a reference process like... The implications, where are they on that? And the implications for that given role ends up being super important.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

You get at the elephant because it's the pattern of behavior over time that you're hearing from multiple people in different contexts. Past performance is indicative of future results. Past behavior is indicative of future behavior. Past behavior as experienced by multiple agents on the field over time in similar contexts.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

You get at the elephant because it's the pattern of behavior over time that you're hearing from multiple people in different contexts. Past performance is indicative of future results. Past behavior is indicative of future behavior. Past behavior as experienced by multiple agents on the field over time in similar contexts.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

My wife knows my elephant well. People I've worked with, Waitzkin knows my elephant well. It's like, so it'd come out in adjectives from them. I'm extremely comfortable with ambiguity. And so I like to hold, I think one of the characters in Shogun apparently does this. I haven't just started watching it, but Torunaga, just hold, hold to the point where everybody else is losing their mind.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Graham Duncan - Talent Whisperer - [Invest Like the Best, EP.409]

My wife knows my elephant well. People I've worked with, Waitzkin knows my elephant well. It's like, so it'd come out in adjectives from them. I'm extremely comfortable with ambiguity. And so I like to hold, I think one of the characters in Shogun apparently does this. I haven't just started watching it, but Torunaga, just hold, hold to the point where everybody else is losing their mind.