Stuart Waitley

You do have the Bulldogs sitting back there and then you've got the Giants who the coach sort of sounded pretty casual about in his press conference.

No, no, we're fine.

This is us.

We'll just come good.

Yes.

Which is a great mindset.

You can't give it away after eight.

This is the, whether you like it or not, this is the...

charm of nine and 10 being live is the giants can actually plot out a run to, to a wild card position rather than the, the chase to grab eighth place is, is a long way off for them.

But nine and 10 is very much in sight.

Yeah, well, there's six teams chasing nine and 10.

So at the moment, I think it's St Kilda North, Adelaide Bulldogs, Port Adelaide and the Giants are all fighting for two spots, which I think's healthy because we'll get to around 15.

I promise you around 15, we'll really know everything.

And then those last seven or eight weeks, we can discuss this piece and whether they get to a grand final or not.

I don't think that's the real challenge of it.

It's to keep things more motivated for players and clubs.

And then it's also to have a day in the sun over the wildcard weekend.

So I'm looking forward to that.

Simmo says the structure of things is well in place after eight rounds.

The big issue is inevitably Carlton here and the manner of what is happening and then what comes next.