Stuart Waitley

So maybe zero in on the manner of what's happening first.

It's a challenge.

I'm not a spokesperson for Carlton either and I understand the frustration at the moment.

We can talk about Michael and what he's going through because I have lived that a little bit.

But what's happening in these second halves, it's really hard to put a finger on because you think they would have worked it out by now.

And, and every, every week there's one common denominator, which I think is around the center, center ball ups.

But you know, the Saints, there's only four stoppages in that third quarter for the whole quarter outside of the center bounces or center ball ups.

So, you know, dealing with momentum there, the North game was pressure.

There was a heap of pressure put on.

Um, the Swans was a contest and clearance way back in round, opening round.

um the d's got them on the outside um the pies was the center bounce you know the day cost quarter you know when we remember that against collingwood so and a lot of it's got to be mindset you can't you can't veer away from that so there's the structure strategy planning i think the center ball ups are a distinct issue that they're working through in terms of momentum because you want to get that field position to get going and then

And it's the leadership and then the perceived pressure that hits you.

And they just can't get out of that.

And you've said it before, the doom loop of here we go again is real.

So, yeah.

And working through that as a football club.

And then, of course, there's the pressure that's on Vossi at the moment as well.

That's real as well.

Let's just stay with the on-field firsts.

The first six minutes of the third quarter, they dominate Vossi.