Sue Min Toh

And resources.

And so doing that allows you to step away from that and just stop doing it.

So you have a chance to replenish, to rest, to relax.

And not think about, you know, sort of other things that are going in your life.

Oh, absolutely.

I think that's really key for me.

I think we need to be a bit kinder to ourselves.

And there's this idea of radical rest that we really need to do that.

Right.

And somehow we've been programmed to think that resting somehow is wasteful.

that we're not being productive all the time.

And even the way we rest has to be productive and, you know, the same activities where we're still sort of learning, you know, rather than just, you know, kind of going into this mindless state, right?

And so there is a lot of judgment and I try not to judge myself as much when I need that or also my family, my kids and, you know, others, right?

And so I think we all just kind of need to chill out a little bit.

Yeah, certainly that should not be the takeaway of this research, right?

And there is a danger of spending too much screen time because it does increase the likelihood of screen addiction, which then leads to other issues and other problems and probably even more chaotic households.

So, yeah, so that's definitely not the takeaway, but...

Really, just to be able to tell yourself and others that it's okay, right?

And that some of these activities may be seen as they're wasteful, but they actually can be really helpful and that you really need it at the end of the day.

Yeah, so I think that's what I set out to do in this research.