Sue Simpson

Did Alex tell you that he got hit in the head with the bat? Objection, your honor. Here's a prior ruling.

Let's not jinx it. I did win.

Let's not jinx it. I did win.

That's right, Andrea. The first witness, Nicholas Bradford, was a DNA expert who testified during the first trial, and he looked at the DNA on that taillight, and he found that there was very strong support, his words, that the DNA matched John O'Keefe and two other unknown, unrelated individuals.

That's right, Andrea. The first witness, Nicholas Bradford, was a DNA expert who testified during the first trial, and he looked at the DNA on that taillight, and he found that there was very strong support, his words, that the DNA matched John O'Keefe and two other unknown, unrelated individuals.

Exactly. Remember, the defense alleges that John O'Keefe was beaten up at this afterparty and dragged outside and left for dead in the snow. And on cross-examination, Alan Jackson pointed out several members of law enforcement were present at the after-party the night John O'Keefe died, and their DNA was not compared to the DNA on that broken taillight.

Exactly. Remember, the defense alleges that John O'Keefe was beaten up at this afterparty and dragged outside and left for dead in the snow. And on cross-examination, Alan Jackson pointed out several members of law enforcement were present at the after-party the night John O'Keefe died, and their DNA was not compared to the DNA on that broken taillight.

And in this clip, the defense is basically naming two of the people they claim beat up John O'Keefe, ATF agent Brian Higgins and former Boston police officer Brian Albert.

And in this clip, the defense is basically naming two of the people they claim beat up John O'Keefe, ATF agent Brian Higgins and former Boston police officer Brian Albert.

Yes, this was a man named Shannon Burgess. He's an expert in digital forensics in vehicles and cell phones at a company called Aperture. And he was on the stand for the better part of two days. His testimony was so technical, Andrea, at times it was just laced with strings of numbers. But basically, he took a look at the data found in what's called the infotainment module from Karen Reed's SUV.

Yes, this was a man named Shannon Burgess. He's an expert in digital forensics in vehicles and cell phones at a company called Aperture. And he was on the stand for the better part of two days. His testimony was so technical, Andrea, at times it was just laced with strings of numbers. But basically, he took a look at the data found in what's called the infotainment module from Karen Reed's SUV.

And that data includes things like when the car turned on and turned off and when and how the car moved and what time those movements happened.

And that data includes things like when the car turned on and turned off and when and how the car moved and what time those movements happened.

Burgess said when the data was initially downloaded, an SD card was missed. He got his hands on it, and he testified that he was able to get information from it that gave him a clear idea about the timeline of what actually happened that night. So Burgess testified that the car was turned on at 12.12.36 a.m. and turned off about 30 minutes later.

Burgess said when the data was initially downloaded, an SD card was missed. He got his hands on it, and he testified that he was able to get information from it that gave him a clear idea about the timeline of what actually happened that night. So Burgess testified that the car was turned on at 12.12.36 a.m. and turned off about 30 minutes later.

So that would cover the time that Karen and John left the bar and drove to the after-party, and then when Karen returned to John's house alone. Burgess also testified about a backup maneuver.

So that would cover the time that Karen and John left the bar and drove to the after-party, and then when Karen returned to John's house alone. Burgess also testified about a backup maneuver.

No, it changes things. I mean, it allows them to make the case. John O'Keefe was using an app on his iPhone that night, you know, Waze, which gives you directions to places. Burgess testified that Karen put her car into reverse between—now here come the numbers—1232-04— And 12-32-12, Burgess said that John O'Keefe last used his iPhone at 12-32-09 while Karen was still backing up.

No, it changes things. I mean, it allows them to make the case. John O'Keefe was using an app on his iPhone that night, you know, Waze, which gives you directions to places. Burgess testified that Karen put her car into reverse between—now here come the numbers—1232-04— And 12-32-12, Burgess said that John O'Keefe last used his iPhone at 12-32-09 while Karen was still backing up.

And then O'Keefe never used his phone again. So the prosecution is using Burgess' testimony to establish a timeline to say that Karen Reid did hit John O'Keefe.