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Susan Cain

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
263 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

If you play me some tune of any genre that just sounds...

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

I don't know that I care.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

Like if you then pull back the curtain and tell me that this is pure AI confection, it's possible I'll still like it better than the human product because on some level music is doing something different for me.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

It's a little bit like the difference between art and music.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

interior decorating.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

Like, you know, if you tell me that couch, the color of the couch is what it is, and I don't care how it got there, right?

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

It's either a couch I love the look of or not.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

It's either comfortable or I'm not.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

But if you tell me that, you know, we just found the perfect fabric and the perfect color, and it's all made by robots, you know, on some level, I just care about the object itself and not how it got there.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

So that's such a perfect analogy.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

It's a very Philistine analogy.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

All the musicians are horrified that I went that far down the hierarchy of mattering, but yeah.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

I don't actually feel that way about it.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

So, okay, what you just said, I would feel if I were, you know,

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

Out at a restaurant and there's great background music playing.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

I don't care in that context who wrote the music or where it came from.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

But actually, the whole reason that I wrote Bittersweet, my last book, was because I have had all my life this incredibly intense, euphoric slash ecstatic reaction to certain forms of minor key, sad music.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

And I was just trying to figure out where on earth did that come from?

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

Have you experimented with trying to produce AI minor key sad music?

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

No, but I think I would have the same reaction to it that I have when I start reading the social media story and then realize it's AI and stop reading.