Susan Daly

Well, would they, though?

I mean, that is the question.

You know, what would be the threshold for disproof of this?

What would be the number that would be satisfying to kind of this really diversionary narrative about housing that circulates online?

The fact is we're a republic.

The fact is that anyone who's entitled to be here is also entitled to social services here.

The fact is that for a non-national to get on the housing list, the qualifications are, for the most part, pretty close to what the qualifications for citizenship are.

Then not everyone who meets the qualifications for citizenship necessarily takes it up.

But, you know, you have to be here a pretty long time.

You have to have leave to remain if you've come through the asylum system.

As Louise says, the problems in the housing system are to do with the lack of construction of social housing are also to do with pressures on the market that really don't have to do.

with immigration if you like at the of the poorest people who would qualify for housing it has to do with pressures uh caused by vulture landlords from multinational companies it's pressures caused by the migration of well-off people who drive up rents in our cities so it is it does it seems to me i understand where this narrative is coming from but you know it's the wrong place you're

And the answer to that is, generally speaking, kind of no.

And certainly in something like this where the data could be interpreted ambiguously, where there are different kinds of rules and thresholds, I think it's highly unlikely that this transparency would somehow result in everyone feeling good about immigration suddenly in Ireland, that there's nobody jumping queues or anything like that.

I think that, as Susan says, the question is about process.

It's not about numbers.

But scammers we've had always with us at the same time.

I can remember when they were in the small ads in the back of magazines.

You know, it wasn't a question of having them online.

Now we've got our lovely data centers, of course, processing and producing all of these wonderful scams and providing information.