Susan Glasser

for many people, starting to connect.

And I know you detect the whiff of something, and I hear you on Republicans breaking with Trump on Capitol Hill over the Epstein vote.

But for me, it is about understanding that they spread the fear, not just to the immigrants.

And my very favorite sign that I saw in the recent round of No King's protests

really speaks to this.

It's a little literary here, but first they came for the immigrants and I spoke up because I knew the rest of the effing poem.

You know, and and that's right.

I mean, that's that's the difference, hopefully, from the 1930s is is that, you know, people they they're onto the script.

They got the plot line, Stephen Miller.

Feel free to dish to us on, you know, what was the backstage vibe with, you know, the former Vice President Harris?

I mean...

Did you feel like this is her return to the political scene, or is it just a kind of book sales extravaganza?

Yeah.

And look, I mean, we're also in a world where nine months in, you know, maybe you and I are not stunned by the series of worst case scenarios that are playing out before us.

But I think a lot of people are and they're feeling the pain of the Trump economy and, you know, a sense of I'll do anything, you know, to show my my concern about this moment.

And, you

you know, I think that is part of the moment, right?

Look at those election results.

I know it seems like an eon ago, but it wasn't even a month ago.

You know, people really wanted to show up.