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Susan Saulny

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
318 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And that's something that America as a whole has never done.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

You know, so many people in the aftermath of the story ask me, but no, really, who do you think was better off?

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Was it worth it in the end?

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And I say...

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Okay, first of all, I think it's an unanswerable question.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

But if someone were to force that, it depends on what standard you're using.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

What is your measuring stick?

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Is your measuring stick community and kinship and culture and building a family from nothing?

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

You know, if that's the measuring stick, might lead you in one direction.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

If your measuring stick is

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

purely financial success and property and accomplishment in business or law, then that's, you know, going to lead you to a different answer.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

I don't answer that question because I think it's unanswerable.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And I think they both had hard times and I think they both had things that they wanted to achieve that they achieved.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Now, I think George's riches, just because I spent the most time with him and can speak to what I think he thought made his life rich, it was kinship and culture.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And it sort of makes me think that that's why African-American kinship and culture is as strong as it is, because it augmented some of the poverty of what was there, some of what was taken away, some of what was lost.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

We doubled down on that, and look what it produced.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

I mean, in New Orleans, it produced wonderful things if you consider the food, the music, the impact on, oh gosh, too many things to even name.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

So from the moment I discovered that Arthur existed, I knew I wanted to get them together.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

But we're talking about an 85-year-old and a 95-year-old, right?

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

But it was just so stunning that my mother didn't know she had a first cousin who could have been in her life.