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Susan Saulny

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
318 total appearances

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

In Chicago, a law partner, George Jr.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

dropped out of school at 13 to help his father lay bricks to support the family.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

So look at the different life trajectories between George, who was black and his son, and Edward, who was passing for white and his son.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

By the third generation, we got together and we look at each other and we're like, well, you know, you're a professional person, I'm a professional person.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

It seems like we're living really comfortable lives.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

What made the difference?

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And I think my generation had the benefit of things like the Civil Rights Act.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

of the Voting Rights Act, of programs like Affirmative Action that were looking for potential and merit in places where they hadn't looked before.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And if we gained any ground to be on somewhat equal footing now, I think it's because of a lot of the things that our parents' generation fought for, my parents' generation, black people in the South.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And going into this, I didn't see how resonant the story would be with our times right now today.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

And that we're seeing some of these things that made all the difference to my generation being picked apart, being diluted, being attacked.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Most recently, the Voting Rights Act, which was the signature achievement of the civil rights movement.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

You know, my grandfather was disenfranchised.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

So there are so many things about the 2020s that look uncomfortably to me.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

like the 1920s.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

But I get hope from the fact that we were able to heal this family and the responses I saw across the internet from other people who cheered it, applauded, said, we want more conversations like this.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

We want to do more of this kind of thing over here where I am, over there where you are.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

There was sort of like, I got the feeling that people were ready for something more

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

Like truth and reconciliation, you know, because that's really what we did, the white Grangers and black Grangers.

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How a single decision made a century ago split a family by race

We had a moment of truth and reconciliation.