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Suzanne Maloney

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
338 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

I think they've learned a lot of very dangerous lessons.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And this is something that we know the Iranians have studied, not just America's wars, they've studied their own wars.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

The Iran-Iraq war was the subject of like a hundred volume study by the Revolutionary Guard.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And this is something that the entire Iranian leadership has essentially been tutored on over the course of their careers.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And so they're watching this war.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And I think some of the lessons they're taking are that time can be on their side.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

They can actually seize the straight and then they have the upper hand.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

That ingenuity and some of the same skills that they used to sustain the war with Iraq at a time where they were largely cut off from international weapons supplies as well as battered economically can be applied here, that they can still manage to sustain a war, and again, that time will be on their side again.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

Finally, I think they have seen in real time that they can hit their neighbors in a way that strikes not just at the economic infrastructure, but at the larger political and strategic aims of their leadership, particularly in the Emirates and in Saudi Arabia.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

These are leaders that are trying to affect a massive transformation of their societies, really, and try to tie them much more thoroughly together.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

and in more widely networked ways with the global economy through tech, through tourism, through sports.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And all the Iranians need is a drone through a window of a luxury hotel to persuade Americans and Europeans who might have been planning a spring break in Dubai to reconsider.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And a drone through an airport will cut off the traffic that is so important to these countries.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

The Iranians have targeted very clearly some of the emerging tech infrastructure in the region, the data centers.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And so that's going to be a really long-term concern for their neighbors.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

I think Prime Minister Netanyahu wanted to achieve the dream that he's had for decades, which was to see the end of the Islamic Republic, the end of the threat that it posed to Israel's existence, and that it championed this threat to Israeli existence.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

So I think that for Prime Minister Netanyahu, the persistence of the regime is going to be a tremendous disappointment.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

But the Israelis, I think, are very satisfied with the military objectives that they have been achieving.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

They are prepared to maintain a long, hot war against Iran because it does present such a powerful adversary to Israel and to all Israelis.

The Ezra Klein Show
Why Iran Believes It Has the Upper Hand

And they will continue to mow the lawn as long as they have the opportunity.