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Suzanne O'Brien

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Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

I have no end-of-life experience.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

But when I thought about working with people at the end of life, there was something that was so connected.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

The very first day I went out to see hospice patients, I knew I was in the exact place I was supposed to be in my life.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

The current hospice model relies on 98% of the hands-on end-of-life care being done by the family caregiver.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

And so hospice, we can talk about how it started, but based when the reimbursement model came through, which I believe the hospice benefit came in 1982 with Ronald Reagan.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

It changed everything.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

So in one sense, they said, well, now everyone has access.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

Right.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

So that's like the big banner.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

And that sounds great.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

So the hospice model today is that the hospice nurse is supposed to teach the loved ones how to do that end of life care.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

When I was a hospice nurse, I had about one hour once a week.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

to teach that care.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

There's this perfect storm that's happening right now, the late time that people are getting admitted to hospice, the fear of death that's prevalent, and I'm there for one hour once a week.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

What can really be done there?

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

It's not working well.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

Over 16 years, we've had over 400,000 people from 39 countries take that training.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

Not enough.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

Death is not a medical experience.

Freakonomics Radio
678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

It's a human one.