Suzanne O'Brien

And we just forgot that.

Yes, of love and of care and of compassion and of presence and of bringing death back to the sacred natural experience it was meant to be.

So it's not reimbursed by insurance.

And that's a great thing.

Why?

Because if it were, then it would be put in every one of those categories where we'd have to see 10 or 15 people and we'd be rushed and it wouldn't have the value.

Right.

So what the difference is, is that hospice is the medical manager of that case and

They don't have a lot of time.

It's not their fault.

The death doula is educated in medical terminology, medical disease processes, the progression.

So think of it like this.

They act as the eyes and ears for that hospice team that can't be there.

They can alert them at the

And it is a self-pay, but I know that our doulas, they have people on sliding scales and they have other things.

But I do want to point out this, if I may.

The average cost of a funeral, and again, in the United States, is between $7,000 and $11,000.

If you took a fraction...

of that money and put it towards some care when you needed it, the difference that that could make.

So I think sometimes it's how we choose to allocate the money.