Suzy Welch

But the only way you're going to make more money or get more credibility in the organization is for them to promote you to managing people.

It's very hard.

For most, you need to figure out your economically viable interests.

And you would think this would be so obvious, but people's aperture is so closed.

There's great research that shows that when kids graduate from high school, they can list without prompting five jobs, only five, okay?

And two of those jobs typically are the jobs their parents hold.

We would think that this data would show that when kids go to college, that suddenly the world breaks open and they're just aware of so many more jobs.

But the research shows that after college, they can unprompted name seven jobs.

And of course, now more than ever, jobs are changing like crazy.

But even more than that, there's megatrends, which are the AI industries of the future.

And I'm not even thinking, I mean, look, I think the trades are a fantastic place to go.

I've had students have their eyes open to shipbuilding as just an industry, and they're able to take their MBA skills there because those companies also have HR, logistics, all sorts of managerial roles.

If I'm recalling the student you're thinking of, he was very, very on the fence about going into consulting, but he had that offer in his hand and it felt like, okay, that's a win when you're in business school.

But then his test results kept on coming out in ways that were very antithetical to the consulting life.

So for instance, one of his very high cognitive, one of the cognitive aptitudes is how spatially oriented we are.

They just see everything in three dimensions.

They draw a lot.

They can manipulate objects in space.

And these are people who are often very, very good with products, or they become architects, or they become designers.

And then at the