T.J. Holmes

He's set in robes.

And those first two, I'm like, yeah, this probably isn't him.

I was like, I'm being fooled.

And I was, I said, maybe we shouldn't do an episode because I'm not sure if this is actually Bill Clinton because of that beginning.

You know what?

He kind of has earned the right.

You know, you get to a certain age.

and you say whatever you think, and I imagine that's amplified if you've been the president of the United States, been there, done that, been through every scandal, been impeached.

Yeah, he is at that point in his life where he can say exactly what he wants to.

And he continues, democracy requires every person to play their part, and I hope that by being here today, we can bring ourselves a little further away from the brink and back to being a country where we can disagree with one another civilly.

where the search for truth and justice outweighs the partisan urge to score points and create spectacle.

I'll do my part, and I hope you'll do yours.

He continues,

Though my brief acquaintance with Epstein ended years before his crimes came to light, and though I never witnessed during our limited interactions any indication of what was truly going on, I am here to offer what little I know so that it might prevent anything like this from ever happening again.

And it should be noted, Rose, there's no one necessarily refuting what he's saying here.

There's no evidence of an extended relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, certainly after he started or he was charged with crime.

So, yes, the pictures, all that stuff looks bad.

No, it looks bad.

And look, where he... And this isn't something, given the time frame when he was friends with Jeffrey Epstein, he can say...

that he wouldn't have known what Jeffrey Epstein was up to.