T.J. Holmes

It wasn't publicly known.

He hadn't been charged.

So that still remains to be a fair statement.

It is, however, though, among many of or some of the girls who were there in that circle, seeing Jeffrey Epstein and them knowing what he was doing to them, seeing someone like Bill Clinton by his side gave him power, gave him this power.

feeling or at least their sense that you could never cross him because of look who he is with.

He is with the president of the United States.

So it's not, is it fair to blame Bill Clinton for being near him or by just an association with him?

it contributed to this feeling of helplessness among some of Epstein's victims.

And no one will ever believe, excuse me, there are certain segments of the population who will never, ever, ever believe that Bill Clinton wasn't a part of some of this nefarious stuff going on.

They just refuse no matter what evidence shows, and that's just where we are in our politics.

He continues here, and I was, I like this next line.

um in which he's taking up for i mean he almost in this even like you drag my wife i love i love this it's very cool so he says but before we start i have to get personal you made hillary come in she had nothing to do with jeffrey epstein nothing she has no memory of even meeting him so it's

She neither traveled with him nor visited any of his properties, whether you subpoenaed 10 people or 10,000, including her, was simply not right.

Man.

I love that.

No one has been able to offer a reasonable explanation as to why Hillary Clinton was called in to testify other than perhaps to vouch for Bill or to say something or shed some light on what she knows about Bill's relationship with Epstein.

What was the attempt?

Like, even if you know she knows nothing, for political reasons, what even was the attempt?

What did they gain from that?

Goodbye yesterday.