T.J. Holmes

But does that mean she would have had to?

Well, again, she made the point and she put it out there.

I'm here now because the truth needs to be out there and I want to tell the truth.

And he said you had a year.

So why was it not until this day?

And you mentioned as well, and we both said, if you're sitting in, again, folks, we're only putting ourselves, not as journalists, but as jurors.

Put yourself in that position.

And as jurors, you said that moment was kind of a turnoff as she was getting combative.

The other moment that might have been a turnoff, Robes, if you want credibility here, and again, give the defense attorney credit for this, because he caught it.

He wasn't expecting it when she said they deserve something.

she wrote in one of her letters about deserve, like they deserve some money for this.

She said, we deserve something.

It was a letter from her or back and forth with her family.

And there on the stand, she kind of was defiant and doubled down and said, yep, I deserve.

He was in this moment, funny, not meaning to be, but he said a very common sense thing.

I thought it was good.

Because he seemed dumbfounded, genuinely.

Yes, I deserve something.

He said, you shot somebody.

Why do you deserve?