Tamara Holland

A hundred percent.

You know, this is the kind of going the opposite way of that.

It's like, okay, well, if anyone can recreate a look or be served a look,

and feed into that constantly through shopping.

You know, like we're just being served and served and served the same things over and over again, kind of going left of that and proving that you can, well, maybe even source a similar look, but from a vintage shop rather than shopping new or shopping fast.

Like there is

clout in doing that, right?

And it's not so interesting because in the past, I feel like it would have been the opposite.

Like in the past, if I were doing interviews at Fashion Week...

15 years ago, it would have been like, oh, my outfit is all new designer.

And now it's completely flipped the script.

Well, it's cool to care, isn't it?

It's cool to care, Tam.

It's cool to try.

I think now as well, like to make the effort.

And you have to labour over vintage.

You have to labour over op shopping.

Like you can't just, the things don't come to you.

In the same way you get served trends and served, you know, a perfect outfit on an e-commerce store.

you actually don't get served anything when you're vintage shopping or thrift shopping.