Tamay Besiroglu

And those questions seem much more determined by how your values change as circumstances change.

I agree.

But I would distinguish between the case of Christianity and the case of end of slavery because I think the end of slavery, like I agree you can imagine a society like technologically it's like feasible to have slavery.

But like I think that's not the relevant thing which brought it to an end.

The relevant thing is that the change in values associated with the Industrial Revolution made it so that slavery just became like an inefficient thing to sustain in a bunch of ways.

And a lot of countries at different times like phased out different things you could call slavery.

So, for example, Russia abolished serfdom in the 1860s.

They were not under British pressure to do so.

Like Britain couldn't force Russia to do that.

They just did that on their own.

There were various ways in which people in Europe were like tied to their land and they couldn't like move.

They couldn't go somewhere else.

Those movement restrictions were lifted because they were inefficient.

There were –

There were ways in which it used to be like the kind of labor that needed to be done in the colonies to grow sugar or to grow various crops.

It was very hard labor.

It was not the kind of thing that probably you could have paid people to do because they just wouldn't want to do it because the health hazards and so on were very great, which is why they needed people to force people to do them.

And that kind of work over time became less prevalent in the economy.

So, again, that reduces the economic incentive to do it.

I agree you could still do it, but... But I would emphasize it's like...