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Tamay Besiroglu

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Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Like, they are born, and then they have a certain amount of lifetime learning that they have to do.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So in human learning, there is a ton of duplication.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

While for an AI system, it could just learn once.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

It could just have one huge training run, which has tons of data.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And then that run could be deployed everywhere.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So that's, like, another massive advantage that the AIs have over humans.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So I would say that, I mean, again, the question of, like, will it work?

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Will it be optimal?

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So, I mean, my guess is probably not optimal.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

But, like, I think it's hard.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Like, I don't think anyone has, like, thought this question through in, like, a lot of detail.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And I think a third reason is the thing about the incentive thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

You wouldn't face this problem that part of the reason

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

you have a market is that it gives people the right kind of incentives.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

But you might not need that as much if you're using AI.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So I think there's an argument that if you just list the traditional arguments people have made against why does central bank not work, then you might expect them to become weaker.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Now, I think that is still...

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Like there's a danger when you're doing that kind of analysis to fall into the same kind of like partial equilibrium analysis where you're like only considering some factors and then you're not considering other things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

That's right.